A powerful debate between renowned creationist scientist Dr. Stephen Meyer and skeptic Dr. Michael Shermer.

The topic? One of the biggest questions in human history: Can science prove the existence of God?

Dr. Meyer, known for his work on intelligent design, brings scientific arguments for a Creator, while Dr. Shermer challenges him with a naturalist worldview. What starts as a civil discussion quickly turns intense as evidence, logic, and worldviews clash. Aired: (March 2025)

Listen to the HE SAID/SHE SAID Podcast on this fascinating video!
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Mind Math and the Divine A Theistic Argument
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